I agree with you WW.... and I'm exceptionally glad that you presented the "stone of stumbling"
for what it truly is (without candycoating!). There are many lies circulating amongst christians (as taught by beasts), that
there are no requirements or commandments from the Lord concerning obedience... that all has
been done away with and this is completely untrue. Those who love Him, obey His commandments.
The problem that I see though is that many people would agree with what you've presented,
yet fail to recognize the dividing line between God's children and beasts. In particular, I cringe
when I witness christians who have so much truth concerning believing obedience to God, yet
cannot grasp the fact that national government(s) is/are entirely corrupt, wicked and a ravenous
beast in the eyes of God. They are "religiously" patriotic, believe their govt is chosen and can
do no wrong...ie-that God is behind their reaonings for war etc.
Whether a person is inclined to believe me or not, the Lord has shown me what these beast's
appearances are in His sight. They are the most cruel, evil, despicable, blood thirsty, ravenous
creatures EVER, in the history of mankind! So many think that the bygone days were much
worse but in God's eyes, these are the most wicked of days and will grow even MORE wicked
in the days to come. I'm speaking the truth, EVERY government on the planet is evil and corrupt
in the sight of God, EVERY. Not one of them are genuinely submitted to Him and instead are fulfilling the
lusts of their father, Satan.
I do not say these things as a pretext to rebellion or suggest that a christian must ENTIRELY
separate themselves from the nation in which they reside, for this would be impossible. It is
however, a christian's responsibility to SEPARATE themselves, MORALLY from evil cultural norms
and practices! Knowledge along with wisdom is power and authority. The (Godly) priests and prophets of
old had the discernment between good and evil, the holy and profane... and they walked in the
authority God intended them to walk.
Why is this so important? Because our God is a HOLY God, He is unique, distinct and separate
from the ways of the world AND calls His people to be SIMILARLY distinct, unique, uncommon
and HOLY unto Him.
God bless you,
Kim
We are His "peculiar people." 
I agree with much of what you said Kim. Governments are corrupt and ours is part of the corruption. As wonderful as our nation is so many of our leaders are doing their best to destroy us....greed, wickedness, evil legislation....all done with a big 
saying vote for me! I still see reasons for wars but perhaps those reasons were put in place by the powers that be. Satan controls through four "hidden dynasties." They are so apparent today...
Politics, Education, Finance and Religion.
At this point I don't know if we can turn around....I don't see time to turn. I pray for our boys in harm's way and I'm ready to bring them home. Bring them home, close our gates to the world, clean house and pray! 
It's in His hands.
Colossians 2:9-10 For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him, which is the
Head of all principality and power:
Our Father places those that lead the world...the good and the bad. It is part of our being proven (
see Me2Lord's thread - If You Belong to God, You Will Be Tested For All of God's People Are Tested)
Knowing He is in control and, as you said
Kim, is calling us out and away from the world, gives us eyes to see the powers at work. This morning on Fox News they interviewed a man who has written "
Crisis By Design." He outlines how the powers that be have manipulated the financial crisis for the purpose of....one world government, one world control, one world finance. I have no doubt the book is factual on their desire for global finance and how they caused our present position.
In study this morning I saw a passage that encapsulates both your thoughts,
Kim and
Vicky, on why this is happening and why we should "
get out of Dodge!"
- Isaiah 17:10-11 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the Rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips: In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: but the harvest shalt be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.
17:12-14 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind. And behold at eveningtide trouble: and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.
Pleasant plants, strange slips are
now in control of our Nation and
we planted them!
Sadly, some continue to plant more of them each election and they continue to rob and spoil us.
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