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Prophets are mentioned being sent by the Lord in Acts 11:27.

Acts 11:27 During this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. One of them, name Agabus, stood up and through the Spirit predicted
that a severe famine would spread over the entire Roman world. The disciples each according to his ability decided to provide help for the brothers living in Judea. They did this by sending the gifts by Barnabas and Saul.

In Chronicles 9:29 there are differences in receiving prophecy given to men by God. Examining the verse there is the Prophet of God Nathan who records the written things of God which all the prophets of the bible did also, but this verse also shows the Lord gives visions and such to the others as well, even the common man such as the Shilonite.

Then there is the mentioning of a gift of prophecy given to the Shilonite,

Also there is the mention of a Vision given to the Seer

All these three people received these words of God concerning acts of Solomon. But they were NOT ALL PROPHETS.

Why do you not see them as prophets too?

2 Chron 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, from first to last, are they not written in the records of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the Seer concerning Jeroboam the son of Nebat?


What about the New Testament believers what is recorded about prophecy?

Romans 12:6 Since we have gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, each of us is to exercise them accordingly: if prophecy, according to the proportion of his faith.

2 Peter 1:21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

Isaiah was born to be a prophet and was created to be a sign to the children of Israel and the Lord did many wonders with Isaiah as well with each prophet recorded in the bible in the nation of Israel. These could be distinguished as a special breed for the Lord's work. These came under the Law of Moses.


Isa 8:18 Behold, I and the children whom the Lord has given me are for signs and wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, who dwells on Mount Zion.


Upon the Death of Jesus, the Lord has not created prophets from birth to be signs to the New Testament believers to my knowledge. But, the Lord has given "MANY BELIEVERS" messages through his holy spirit fulfilling His Will in warning to His People of coming disasters and Acts 11:27 brings this truth out because these through the Holy Spirit gave the message of famine coming upon the Land to the Apostles.

There I have to disagree with you.  Where it is written, "I and the children are for signs and wonders" it means....us.  We are the signs and wonders.  His Spirit indwells us and we prophesy. 

• 1 Corinthians 12:28-29  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.  Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

That is today, not just in Paul's time.   I think where the disagreement comes about is in our understanding of  the meaning of prophesy.  It isn't just to tell of future events. 

Now to cover the subject of Prophesying

Prophesying which does happen among the New Testament Believers and is done through the Spirit of God coming upon people. In Both Covenants Prophesying has always been through the spirit of God coming on a person, whether they are of the nation of Israel or New Testament Believers , being individual or a group, God can and does place His Spirit upon them according to his purpose and will for delivering His Messages.

Numbers 11:25 Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to him; and He took of the Spirit who was upon him and placed Him upon the seventy elders. And when the Spirit rested upon them, they prophesied. But they did not do it again.

There is a major difference in your translation and in the King James.  Where you show "they did not do it again," the KJ is they "did not cease." 

• Numbers 11:25  And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease.

I find that strange.  That is a HUGE discrepency.   

A very insightful event takes place next in the camp where two men started prophesying that was not of the 70 elders and some of the men became disturbed these two men had not assigned place with the elders and they ran to tell Moses of this event thinking it was not their place to prophesy.

Numbers 11:26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp.


27 And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp.

28 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. [[/u]/b]

29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

Moses knew the Lord's work was not limited to him or the elders, but to whom ever the it pleased the Lord for the Lord's work.  And we need to understand this today among the New Testament believers.

The Lord does not limit himself to his prophets when giving prophecy as the verses prove this. The Lord uses Ordinary people of his who hold not the title of prophet in the New Testament times, but are given the gift of prophecy, and this is what the Lord had done with me.  I am not a prophet nor anything special before the Lord, other than his child who love him and his father and all of the family of God.

There are times the  Lord sends warnings to his people before disaster comes as he did in Acts 11:27, but to those who oppose the messages of God's warning to his people, beware because the Lord does not approve of those who try to destroy the messenger and the message he sends, as Isaiah speaks on this from the Lord..

Isaiah 30:10 Who say to the seers, "You must not see visions"; And to the prophets, "You must not prophesy to us what is right, Speak to us pleasant words, Prophesy illusions.

Isaiah 11 "Get out of the way, turn aside from the path, Let us hear no more about the Holy One of Israel."

Be careful and do not refuse the messages from the Lord concerning his people, whether it be of a coming famine, a message of tribulation of any kind, be seek the Lord in the matter being told.  

Many of you have read the message of the Lord sending tribulation coming through the Seeds of Ishmael on the bottom of my post, and read many times where I have persisted in the time of tribulation is at hand and the horseman have been loosed upon the earth. These things are true as the Lord has told me so.

Now that day of persecutions is at hand for God's people and is now drawing near as the Lord said they would take me this Year before the leaves fall off the trees.

According to  MY FAITH, I stand before the Father, the Lord God Almighty, Jehovah and His only Begotten Son, the Messiah, the King Jesus Christ, as they bear witness with me, through the Holy Spirit, the truth of their direct message I have given  to you. To the Alpha and the Omega, the First Born and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Amen


We are entering into the birth canal in tribulation under the King of Assyria and the King of Babylon for the final 4 yrs of Great tribulation, the Lord of Israel has shown me these things and you will see them come to pass in the short time ahead of us.


In accordance to my faith be it unto me accordingly
In Jesus Name,
Vickie

To say you are not a prophet isn't correct for...you are.  Our Father through Paul tells us....

• 1 Corinthians 14:39  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

Some, as you, are given to see visions and others not.  I don't.  I don't dream dreams or see the future but He speaks to me through His Word.  He reveals.  The definition of a prophet is....

• Blue Letter Bible Lexicon...
  
  to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict
  
  a) to prophesy
  
  b) with the idea of foretelling future events pertaining esp. to the kingdom of God
  
  c) to utter forth, declare, a thing which can only be known by divine revelation
  
  d) to break forth under sudden impulse in lofty discourse or praise of the divine counsels
  
  1) under like prompting, to teach, refute, reprove, admonish, comfort others
  
  e) to act as a prophet, discharge the prophetic office

So, to prophesy isn't only in telling of future events but is speaking things that only His Spirit can reveal...and that is done with the written word.  The Divine inspiration of His Word. 


I appreciate your posts and warnings.  Although we differ in that I believe the tribulation is a time of great deception and spiritual warfare instead of physical torture I do agree it is very close if not upon us.  I would love to hear more about your personal experiences on these topics. 


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