Message #1340

[TurnFromEvilAndLive]

Hello sisters... greetings!

I see much I agree with both of you ladies. 

Vickie, you believe there is a distinction between merely prophesying and the office
of "prophet", and I agree. However, I also agree with WW that the office still
exists today, for those whom the Lord calls to it (these are listed as WW pointed out,
apostles, prophets, teachers, evangelists etc). This "order" for the church has not
changed, all of these are needed for the body of Christ but these offices have been
abused by many and there are many who have appropriated the postions unto themselves
when in fact, the Lord never called them to it.

I believe that prophesying is a very misunderstood gifting from the Lord, not to mention
that there are many gainsayers using the name of the Lord saying "thus and thus" in His
name for filthy lucre' sake! Because of the evilness of our times, I believe there is a faithful
remnant called/chosen of God but they are not trumpeting their calling, nor do they need to
because it's the Lord who testifies according to fruits or lack thereof.

The "penalty" of the law was nailed to the tree... under the penalty of the law, "one strike
you're out" is no longer the motto concerning prophesying. There are sincere folks learning
and growing in understanding prophecy from the Lord and it is altogether another thing for
a person who is growing in the prophetic compared to the prophets of old who stood before
KINGS and prophesied! One false move there (from any prophet of old) and an entire nation
was subject to RUIN!

I'm not touching on every thought I have concerning this topic as I'm running out of time but
Vickie, I say this with the utmost respect!... have you considered that the Lord speaks
symbolically? I'm referring to the prophecy you are sharing about going into captivity this year.
The reason why I mention this is because being "taken" or going into "captivity" could signify
various things, not necessarily being martyred (but not discluding martyrdom either!). There's
another reason why I bring this up and that is what the Lord has shown my husband and I
concerning what's going on in the Gulf (oil spill). The Lord showed us this before it took place,
but we did not understand until it happened. Many times the Lord will show us something in
advance but the understanding is not there until the event takes place. It can be very hard
knowing if our understanding is correct or not. Consider the prophets of old, EVEN TODAY we
are still trying to figure out what the Lord meant through the prophecy! They were no different!
Paul mentioned them praying and asking the Lord who these prophecies pertained to, and they
were told that they were for us. So many view prophecy as a drive thru mentality but this is
so far from the truth. The disciples were confounded so many times by the words of the Lord
and had to rely upon Him for INTERPRETATION. Interpretation is the KEY to understanding
prophecy, for no prophecy was ever by the unction of man, but men being moved and inspired
by God's Spirit gave utterance and it is that SAME SPIRIT who INTERPRETS. We can pray
in various tongues, but if the understanding is not with those tongues, then they are like a
disorganized symphony with no discernible music being heard. Yes, the instruments are playing
well, but we can't make out the tune! It's the same with prophecy. We are told in the word
to "lean not to our own understanding, but in all our ways acknowledge Him and He will keep
our path straight" (my paraphrase). We need to seek Him and rely upon Him for understanding
and interpretation. Sometimes interpretation comes quickly, sometimes NOT.

(Myrant!, lol.... back to you Vickie)..... my husband and I have seen various things concering
the Gulf and He has shown us the economy being taken CAPTIVE. Various states are on the
brink even now concerning this oil disaster. Please pray about this dear and do consider what
I'm saying... the spirit of the prophets are subject to the prophets... I do not say that lightly
nor do I consider myself above you but we have been gifted to hear from the Lord too and
this is something you may want to take into consideration. If I remember rightly, you do live
in Florida? I was shown a tsunami in the gulf region with business men standing onshore and
they were bound for judgment. I believe these men represent various regions/states/cities etc
and they are being taken away.

There's more we were shown but it would require much more time than I have.

Also, I'd like to say this before I jump off (it's thundering here, lol), our lives are not our own
and I do believe some are called to martyrdom according to the Lord's will and His will alone.
We should be willing to walk in whatever calling God places us in, even to death.

God bless you all, Kim