A great tool 2- music

[peacemaker]

There are two sides to this topic.  I will cover the first side as being the good side of things.  There are songs that are set up as a "left me up".  I had for a time a song called stand my ground on my phone.  It had a massage with it that helped me keep my mind set on goals I had to work on at the time.  I was struggling with overly controling people in my life at that time, and it draw on the week side of me.  I stuggle with people pleasing to a point now, but a few years ago it was controling me.  I have one the arm match though... !!!  but I needed songs like this one....that was inspiring!  Find that song for yourself.

Now for the bed side.  Most of us knows that the bad side of music is connected with spiritually evil stuff.  Demons, and spirits!  Artists praying to gods to bless and or possess the peace them do.  I can list lots and lots of prof of this.  In turn, many feel their moods change from it, like drugs do when you take it, some music for some can be just as strong for them as taking a drug.  So we need to be careful what we exspose ourselves to.  So cut all music that isnt christian out, some feel claim it is even in christian music...I say for the most part...not so!!!  We need to be smart about this.  Like when an artist claims they are like "possessed" from something that isnt them when the preform their song, I would say most likely them are.  There are those that come right out and say it and those that feel they hide it well.  The thing is, take time, when you hear a song that isnt lefting Jesus up, look at the words, and them pray and see what you feel.  It is isnt lefting you up, get raid of it! 

 :sick0019:  love this pic...perfact, hu!?


 

[RoseofSharon]

There are two sides to this topic.  I will cover the first side as being the good side of things.  There are songs that are set up as a "left me up".  I had for a time a song called stand my ground on my phone.  It had a massage with it that helped me keep my mind set on goals I had to work on at the time.  I was struggling with overly controling people in my life at that time, and it draw on the week side of me.  I stuggle with people pleasing to a point now, but a few years ago it was controling me.  I have one the arm match though... !!!  but I needed songs like this one....that was inspiring!  Find that song for yourself.

Now for the bed side.  Most of us knows that the bad side of music is connected with spiritually evil stuff.  Demons, and spirits!  Artists praying to gods to bless and or possess the peace them do.  I can list lots and lots of prof of this.  In turn, many feel their moods change from it, like drugs do when you take it, some music for some can be just as strong for them as taking a drug.  So we need to be careful what we exspose ourselves to.  So cut all music that isnt christian out, some feel claim it is even in christian music...I say for the most part...not so!!!  We need to be smart about this.  Like when an artist claims they are like "possessed" from something that isnt them when the preform their song, I would say most likely them are.  There are those that come right out and say it and those that feel they hide it well.  The thing is, take time, when you hear a song that isnt lefting Jesus up, look at the words, and them pray and see what you feel.  It is isnt lefting you up, get raid of it! 

 :sick0019:  love this pic...perfact, hu!?


 

 

However be careful! From Personal experience I know that this is also in Christian music. It's to do with a clash of ideology, music carries it's own philosophy, and even the music can create an open door to the demons. The words are great, but it;s not always easy to judge just by the words as to whether it;s uplifting or not. Twice now, I've had Cd's which I've had to get rid of which were 'Christian/Hymns' because they were bringing the demons into my home. It tends to be predominantly in 'christian' rock, but it is in other Christian music as well. The safest thing is to pray about your music and ask God to reveal to you which music does honour Him. Please be careful.

[peacemaker]

Yes...

but I have had trouble with those feel that the boxed in music of humys only and organs only are that so called, "only way".  We all have to be careful to to be dragged into teachings of other that take their own opnion that any thing with Drums and or elictic anything is from hell itself, go back a few generations and you see this same behavor repeating itself, with our Grandparents saying the same thing, yet theirs said the same thing before them, and way befor the "rock music" came about!  It is called ballance.  Dont just go buy only what man said, but what G-d says about it, if the word covers it outright then it is out right wrong.  But if it is based on the reasoning of man and not back completely with the word, it is wrong...just  like Calling what is right, wrong, and wrong, right!  There are some many teachings out there that cover thing and line up with those that was teaching the law and the old ways when jesus came, Jesus ending up rejecting them because of their ways.    I will in this case gover this area (music) because music is an addiction for some people.
I am going into a study about all this and will come back with all my info to post it soon!
 

[RoseofSharon]

I'm certainly not advocating that extreme position, trust me. I will wait for your study, and then if there's anything I can add from my own (I have studied this issue for a good few years) I will add it.

[peacemaker]

I am having trouble getting any posting of info from anyone that is solo based on the bible, and not just their own opinan of it.  Some quato from the world as well, but then told show those facts they way they have.  It is a big fat mass so far.

I have found one...that just that...but has a few things I find pretty good in the facts department, but not founded enough to say or keep to that exstream of what I was talking about.  I am against that exstream for abusive reasons.  My hubby was abused by those that couldnt stand that he used a elactric gitar....really!  but those people didnt care that a few seats infront where people that couldnt hear untill he played it.  

I will name two point I found I could scream at!

Harmonic Overtone Singing ...really...and this as a pretty scary background!  This same person that stated that a back beat in music was a sin....but then stated so called facts about Harmonic Overtone Singing having healthy properties!
See:

When I find a teach that seem or feel for a lack of a better way of saying it, feels wrong...I want to then look for their reasons for doing it, their back ground.  I find a great deal fo the teaches are mixed with a little truth, a little fact, and a lots of wantting to control what others are doing, and pride, and a religous spirit.  

I want you to know R..that I am not thinking that iswhat yo are meaning here...my page is jumping gain

[peacemaker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sHjv6QthQ&feature=PlayList&p=F6F282264551828A&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=10
shows what chims do, and effacts moods, and emotions of those hearing it.  Our nabors had them in their chin. garden where they have that 4 elements things going.     Talk about the demons there   My hubby that struggles with hearing proubles, and needs to protect his hearing because of it was bothered by some kinds of chims that had this effact...and I got read of chims we had...when I didnt think anything was wrong with them before.  then I found out about this!  Yet many that teach against "rock" not being christian music...no matter what music...finding many of them premote these other ideas, because it is sience and health...yet the new age people do as well....look at the sites I gave at the corners showing others that are into the same things.  The point to classical music and point the healthiness of it for these reasons...
As well as many in the church pack them premoted and as well had teachings on overtones and harmonics in singing and playing their music...even them there were those in the "exstream box" that called it sin too.  Funny how over board things can go if we arent careful!

For the most part, when hearing the teachings of most so far I count get apass their nasty way of comuncation to keep watch or hearing the reast.  I will post so far what I have for I could...but I dont know how mush of this guys stuff I can take either...
I dont take abusive behavor in dealing with this very kindly.  Like some have done with ARt!  I  paint and had to deal with some exstreams of those that believe if you make an emage at all you are sining.  Avoiding them seems to work!

I will post this so far what I have been watch...tell me what you think R!



 

[RoseofSharon]

I'll certainly look at the videos, however it may take me sometime to go through them as I am struggling to load properly anything that needs any bulk of downloading :(

[RoseofSharon]

I am having trouble getting any posting of info from anyone that is solo based on the bible, and not just their own opinan of it.  Some quato from the world as well, but then told show those facts they way they have.  It is a big fat mass so far.

I have found one...that just that...but has a few things I find pretty good in the facts department, but not founded enough to say or keep to that exstream of what I was talking about.  I am against that exstream for abusive reasons.  My hubby was abused by those that couldnt stand that he used a elactric gitar....really!  but those people didnt care that a few seats infront where people that couldnt hear untill he played it.  

I will name two point I found I could scream at!

Harmonic Overtone Singing ...really...and this as a pretty scary background!  This same person that stated that a back beat in music was a sin....but then stated so called facts about Harmonic Overtone Singing having healthy properties!
See:




When I find a teach that seem or feel for a lack of a better way of saying it, feels wrong...I want to then look for their reasons for doing it, their back ground.  I find a great deal fo the teaches are mixed with a little truth, a little fact, and a lots of wantting to control what others are doing, and pride, and a religous spirit.  

I want you to know R..that I am not thinking that iswhat yo are meaning here...my page is jumping gain

I've just finished watching the first video (or as much as I am willing to watch anyway. Please people DO NOT watch it!! I will name three things from my experience from it, and then I will tell what my hamster did.

Ok I watched with an open mind because I have never even heard of this harmonic overtone singing before, however the first thing I noticed was that the moment he started singing I felt my hands start to tremble, and this developed into sensations in my hand exactly as when I am entering into the 'energy' field around us (what I have since realised is actually the spirit world). This was nothing good!!!!!!!!! The second thing I noticed was how the "singers" face kept changing, now this happens in only two circumstances that I am aware of (to this extreme) the one being multiple personality disorder and the other being demon possession, given the rest of what I have said and will say I think it is the latter. The third thing I noticed was a 'face' behind the boy - it was the face of an old man, but definitely a face, and other things in his room that should have been stationery and the same were changing. There were spirits in that room at least with him if not actually moving through him! None of that was from God!!!!! I could not watch the whole video, and certainly would not suggest that anyone should willingly open themselves up to that kind of music nor to the spirits that come through that video!!!!!

I had to get up to tend to something in my home, and as I stood up I saw my hamster sitting in her cage looking out into my sitting room behind me, and she was sitting in a very strange posture - it was a defensive posture but sitting on her hind legs and then pulling her whole body down to make herself as small as possible and she looked frightened. This added to everything else that I saw confirmed me in my belief that what I have said is correct.

The actual sounds that he was using reminded me of two things both of which are dangerous! the Gregorian chants and also the buddhist 'mantra' they use in meditation.

[peacemaker]

Gregorian chants and also the buddhist 'mantra' they use in meditation. ---was thinging that as well.  The man in the past video teaching about christian rock was talking about this, and pointing out another set of teachings done by a women one marks in the jewish bible lineing up with this kind of thing...looked that up as well...and....well....seems to be the same thing too!  I will not post the site out right!  But it is about music of the bible revealed. 

Now with those chants and meditations talked about, I will admit that i have seen some of the same kind of behavor by some attending church.  Now mind you, I dont think they are christians, but are those that mix their what things they have learned, and have brough it into church with them.  I know of a women that did that meditation/ humming thing after becoming truely saved, spiritfill, and she was nocked over by G-d and He told her, what Do you think I am, I am not one of those gods made by humans hands, respect me and learn how to worship right!  She said she left it all behind.  My own mother has mixed her self with wicca and other stuff, and refuses to change, I dont go around her ....one of those things I put an end to because of knowing that it would bring me down and cause me to struggle...as well as cause my child to struggle.  It is hard to give up a women you love, but It saves my child from going through it, braking that paturn.  Amen!   We have not chaims that grate those sounds eight.  My animals act up like yours did when there are demons around...and I find that we get drop-ins at times, for they dont say long! 
Move a few things, or make the animals act up, and we start rebuking and it all stopped.

[RoseofSharon]

Ok I've just watched your second video (infact went onto going through the whole series) Wow!!!! Are you aware that it is not really talking about music? did you watch it! This would be a great video to post in a thread of it's own, with maybe a video or two looking at how to not only produce free electricity, but how to harness the free electricity. Great series, just unfortunately not on topic lol.

[peacemaker]

I think I did grab the wrong one up, I did say I didnt watch all of it!  I will post it some where else and remove it from this area!


I am for getting off the "grid"!

 

[peacemaker]

now I just tried to remove it then noted you have it on repeat from my post... ...well I tryed to remove it.....


Soooo...where should we put it at?  I will post other ways I have learned about, we should make a list of all ways of getting off the grid!

[RoseofSharon]

THat's ok, I'll remove it from my post if you wish it, however in order for it to make sense, I'll have to remove a full post of mine lol :)