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Offline tsth

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Ok, there's something I would like to talk about....
« on: June 26, 2010, 08:24:29 pm »
I have teen kids, and one is getting ready for college and one is 16 and driving.

I have to say, that I am really having a difficult time being reconciled with the fact that I'm just not real thrilled about the world they are getting ready to enter.    I mean really I consider these days, and I vacillate back and forth between understanding that they were called/born for this time period and whatever God is preparing for them, and being angry over what type of society they have been left with.

I get so sad sometimes when I consider it.  My daughter is 18.  She's never dated and she's content with this, knowing that God is preparing a godly young man for her.  She entered the working world about a year and a half ago, and she gets gibed all the time about the fact that she doesn't have a boyfriend and that she isn't dating.  Even though she tells them that she hasn't come across anyone that she'd like to date.  She doesn't meet any STRONG Christian young men.  The ones she knows are seriously ALL just "church" guys...and outside of church, they are the "world".  It is discouraging.  We ended up breaking fellowship with our dearest friends and neighbors who were also our kids friends, because when they hit the teen years, they really went downhill, so my kids couldn't run around with them anymore and of course there ended up being resentments.  It's just hard.  Is anyone else going thru this with their kids and "the world" stuff?

Just wondering?


In His Love,
Suzanne

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Oh Suzanne, I DO understand!!!  My youngest, Shelby, is 18...and yeah I a little prejudiced ( :ashamed0005: :P) she is great.  We talk a lot, and I don't want to make her "afraid" but I do see the world they have gotten.  Miche and I dicuss this quite a bit.

My biggest sadness on this one is that sometimes I think Shelby feels like she is so left out...and alone.
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Oh goodness, we need to get our girls connected!!!  The only other girls who know what my daughter is going thru, are her good friends who are missionary kids (2 sisters) who live with theri family in Africa....they minister to deaf people in a small village somewhere around Ghana....in comparison, they are REALLY isolated.

Thank you for posting on this...we really are feeling so strange.  I'm sad to say that the kids that my kids were friends with (they were our neighbors in a small rural community) and they/we all attended the same church...but when the kids hit middle school they took a turn for the worse (sex, drugs, worldly things) that we did not allow...so needless to say we all went separate ways.  They are all still in the church and youth group, we were ostrasized and run out because of our concerns with the "youth" dept.  It was a very sad/strange thing to experience.


In His Love,
Suzanne


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Well, I don’t have kids, but I do have wisdom (I think I would have made a great father, I LOVE kids [I want to squeeze them to pieces], but that wasn’t in God’s plans for me).  All a parent can really do is pray and hope that they have instilled enough of a godly foundation in their children that as life goes on and they venture out to become their own mature person that they will make the right decisions.  And when they don’t (because we are all fallible and make mistakes), then let them know they have the reliable option to come to you with open arms, no matter what, and you will be there to help them in any way possible to pick up the broken pieces and hopefully redirect them on the right course.  Mistakes serve the purpose to build character, fortitude and wisdom; trial and error makes life what it is, a journey.  Sometime we have to take risks, sometimes we miscalculate the risks and overextend ourselves and even put much in jeopardy, but we learn.  If one lives in a protective isolated bubble, then one might as well be dead.  That’s not living, that a prison.  Hopefully, you have taught them enough on how to make well-informed choices, thinking “critically” to consider both short term and long term consequence to their actions, and to consider the potential ramifications and consequences of their actions; for every cause there is an effect; and when in doubt there is Mom and Dad for mutual consultation on any difficult matter they are saddled with.  There is nothing wrong with taking the high road and ending poisonous relationships to assure one’s own good welfare, distancing one self from bad apples.  There should be no guilt about that.  The bad apples won’t be there for your child when things go wrong.  Hopefully, he/she have enough sense to realize this.  Just encourage them to be their own persons and not be easily swayed by the winds of group thought or by what is "fad" and  “popular”.  What’s popular today will be obsolete tomorrow, don’t throw yourself away for something so fleeting, but rather endure with dignity and integrity.  In the end Mom and Dad will be thanked as your children look at what their contemporaries have sadly and tragically become.  I must say, in these times it must be the toughest thing in the world to be a parent.  I hope this pep talk helped.   :party0002:  

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Thank you seven...it did!  I think it just helps to be able to "talk" about it. 

One of the things that has really been difficult is having to sit on the sidelines, as she is out there defending the faith.  She has grown tremendously, especially with her very first job.  She ended up working around some very lost people and she was the only light at the workplace.  She got teased, questioned, and harrassed at first, and then we get to see the fruit begin to take root from her witness.  Some loved who she was, some didn't understand, and some were curious, but it definitely was her first venture out in her faith.  She told us that she was concerned how she would hold in the faith, once she got out in the world.  She said she was glad that she stayed in the faith.  She did well.  Her 2nd job is a bit more difficult, as she is working around a lot of teens that are like those I mentioned who were old friends...kids that are in the church groups and think that because they belong to a youth group that they are Christians, even though they do not follow Jesus at all in their lifestyles.  It really is astounding how many kids do not know WHO Jesus really is, and what a Christian is supposed to act like.  They are really bothered that my daughter has not gotten into fleshly and worldly practices that many kids today do.  And it is harder for her at this job than the previous one, because at the previous one the kids were gothic and lost, and the witness was easier for her.  She is having a harder time with "churched" kids at this 2nd job, because they are not behaving as you would think a Christian should behave...and they are contentious toward the fact that she is different and has been homeschooled.  It has been rough.  She really has been tested and confused that these are church kids and yet she can't find fellowship with them...it makes her cry sometimes.

In His Love,
Suzanne

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Oh goodness, we need to get our girls connected!!!  The only other girls who know what my daughter is going thru, are her good friends who are missionary kids (2 sisters) who live with theri family in Africa....they minister to deaf people in a small village somewhere around Ghana....in comparison, they are REALLY isolated.

Thank you for posting on this...we really are feeling so strange.  I'm sad to say that the kids that my kids were friends with (they were our neighbors in a small rural community) and they/we all attended the same church...but when the kids hit middle school they took a turn for the worse (sex, drugs, worldly things) that we did not allow...so needless to say we all went separate ways.  They are all still in the church and youth group, we were ostrasized and run out because of our concerns with the "youth" dept.  It was a very sad/strange thing to experience.


In His Love,
Suzanne


How sad!  And the persecution seems to start so much eariler for them...for standing up for right instead of just "fitting in"!
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Yes,  the world has become worse than ever and our children are "NOT SAFE" out in this environment. 

I hurt all the time because our 9 yrs grandson stays the majority of his time with us as his mom works out of town a lot.   We teach him God's way and spend a lot of time with him, as the kids on the block have become so mean and growing in attitudes that are not godly...even though these kids have believing grandparents they live with...it is a nightmare.

Suzanne,  in all sincerity we are in times that are the End and it is only going to get worse as we go further into it.   This year trouble will come as our Lord told me so about 3 wks ago.  it  will happen this year as the Lord said persecutions are the next sign following the earthquakes and it will come this year...it will be different from anything we have known, but our Lord will take us through this till he appears and destroys these who are doing this to his earth and his people.   The King of Assyria who Obama is connected to.

I can only encourage you to spend time with your children and encourage them the Lord is coming to establish his kingdom and it will be here soon but there is a few things that must happen first.    I have been talking to my  kids and their families getting them unto as much understanding as I can about what is ahead. 

They are all baptized and this has made me happy as they love the Lord also.   Encourage your daughter and all you kids... they will be comforted from it if you present it in an encouraging way.   lol 
the father said he was sending the tribulation through the seed of Ishmael  and they are camped around us now.  Trust the Lord in the times of trouble that is near to all of us.   The Lord is coming.

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Just watched one of those kids I mentioned get hauled away in handcuffs...so truly sad....they are our neighbors.
My dh tried to counsel the dad years back (when we were in close fellowship in the church) and warn him that if he did not step up and become the spiritual/godly leader in his home, these things would happen.


me2lord, it is such a fine line between warning our kids and scaring them into not living their lives.  We have been forthright with them as far as watching the events unfolding in our times.  I just am unwilling to tell them that we are THIS CLOSE to turmoil.  I am just glad that they are still home with us, so that when the time comes, we can still counsel them and they can come with us (wherever the Lord leads us to?)


In His Love,
Suzanne

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me2lord, it is such a fine line between warning our kids and scaring them into not living their lives.  We have been forthright with them as far as watching the events unfolding in our times.  I just am unwilling to tell them that we are THIS CLOSE to turmoil.  I am just glad that they are still home with us, so that when the time comes, we can still counsel them and they can come with us (wherever the Lord leads us to?)
In His Love,
Suzanne

good morning dear sister, 

It is a difficult situation to try to help our children understand the times we are in and it does depend on what the level of maturity is for them.

We have read scriptures to all our grandchildren (6) of the promises from the Lord where the Lord speaks of the Kingdom of God and the wonderful scriptures that give reference to this along with the verses that speaks of the Lord bringing our children into the Kingdom.    Telling them this life will end and all these wonderful things will take place because the Lord has this power and will do  as he  says. 

When our Lord told me of tribulation I prayed, asking for verses  to help me understand and was shown many  scriptures to help them understand as well as myself.    They are all okay with things, in fact the 9 yrs old keeps asking when will this happen and we told him this year and he's been telling his friends about it...go figure?   :inlove:

Though, I have spent the last two years reading the verses  to them that speak of the kingdom of God here on earth and discussing this with the my adult kids and their children about God and His plan.  In doing this we are giving them the same hope we have.  It always amazed me how quick these little ones accepted it and were happy about it and seem to be so receptive to all of it...is amazed me and made me smile.   We know this has helped stabilize them in an unstable world we are living in.   lol

All of how I approached this came through Christ to us because we sought him in helping us  in this matter of the End.  Our Lord Jesus wanted to comfort us and has, though the fullness of what is ahead for us we are not in full understanding of but we know that we trust Christ and we are depending on staying in prayer to him and his leading us through this.    The children have been instructed on communicating with the Lord for the Lord has shown the children he is real and with them.

My son and his wife just came and spent 9 days with us for vacation and their 16 yr. old Joseph, came and sit down on the bed with me and started talking about verses he had been reading in his private time at home and all the things the Lord has shown him...he spoke so matter of fact on the End as God's peace was upon him,  I just listened with a smile upon my face as God is revealing much to him.. he knows about the trouble upon the land, which was interesting because I don't remember getting into all that with him...all I can say is "God is good"...lol

Suzanne I know how much you love the Lord and have raised your children the way they should be raised just from the times you've spoken about them.   Jesus will help you understand and will show you what to say to help them understand what is needful that will actually give them comfort in all this...all it takes is a prayer to him on this matter. lol

Jesus has given us is the hope  we are all going to be together in his kingdom that is soon to be established here on the earth and speaks of our children being with us that has become godly offspring through us. 

Mal 3:15  Has not the Lord made  them one?  In flesh and in spirit they are his.  And why one?    Because the Lord is seeking godly offspring. So guard yourself in your spirit and do not break faith with the wife of your youth. 

Joel 2:15  Blow the trumpet (7th) in Zion declare a holy fast, call a "Sacred assembly"  (those God has chosen for the kingdom) 
16.) Gather the people consecrate the assemble; BRING THE ELDERS, GATHER THE CHILDREN, THOSE NURSING AT THE BREAST, Let the BRIDEGROOM LEAVE HIS ROOM AND THE BRIDE HER CHAMBER.

Isa 43:5  Do not be afraid for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the North, "Give them up!" and to the South, Do not hold them back.   Bring my sons from afar and my daughters FROM THE ENDS OF THE EARTH---everyone who is called by my name whom I created for MY GLORY WHOM I FORMED AND MADE.

Our children and their children are godly offspring whom we have raised for the Lord, the Lord speaks many verses on our children coming into the kingdom of God.   
 
Hope these verses will give you encouragement and uplift you in the Lord's work he is doing with those who love him.

In Christ's love
 
the father said he was sending the tribulation through the seed of Ishmael  and they are camped around us now.  Trust the Lord in the times of trouble that is near to all of us.   The Lord is coming.

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Thank you sister!

Those verses were exactly what I needed!


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In His Love,
Suzanne



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Thank you sister!

Those verses were exactly what I needed!
Suzanne
  Good !    There are many places where the Lord writes of our children being with us..and it is very uplifting for me too   lol
the father said he was sending the tribulation through the seed of Ishmael  and they are camped around us now.  Trust the Lord in the times of trouble that is near to all of us.   The Lord is coming.