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Offline me2lord

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Re: What or who is Israel?
« on: July 06, 2010, 09:30:08 pm »
Let us look at how God chose the development of His plan in Israel. Here are a few passages concerning Ephraim, the son of Joseph, the son of Israel.

Gen. 48:17And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.

 18And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.

 19And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

 20And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.


"a multitude of nations" actually in the Hebrew this reads melo hagoyim or...a fulness of the Gentiles. The verb malé means "to fill."

Compare that with...

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

 26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:  


Here is "the fulness of the Gentiles" again! the melo hagoyim!

All Israel shall be saved! This means that the two aspects or houses of Israel are become one once again and this is through Christ.



thank you thank you thank you...you inspired me to look up the verses in the N.T where the same Greek word "Gentile /Nations" is used and I am liking it better when the word "NATION(S)"  is used...instead of the translator's choice of Gentile... very interesting...indeed..


Gentiles
163                             
     
G1484: ἔθνος / ethnos  (denoted by red/blue words below in the following verses)

 Enhanced Strong's Lexicon



“For nation will rise up against    nation , and kingdom against kingdom; there will be …
Mark 13:10 …gospel must first be preached to all the    nations
Luke 2:32 …A Light of revelation to the    Gentiles , And the glory of Your people Israel.” 
Luke 7:5 for he loves our    nation  and it was he who built us …
Luke 12:30 “For all these things the    nations of the world eagerly seek; but your …
Luke 18:32 …He will be handed over to the    Gentiles , and will be mocked and mistreated and …
Luke 21:10 …Then He continued by saying to them, “   Nation  will rise against nation and kingdom against …
 …by saying to them, “Nation will rise against    nation and kingdom against kingdom, 
Luke 21:24 …and will be led captive into all the    nations ; and Jerusalem will be trampled …
 …will be trampled under foot by the    Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles …
 …the Gentiles until the times of the    Gentiles  are fulfilled.


In Christ's love
the father said he was sending the tribulation through the seed of Ishmael  and they are camped around us now.  Trust the Lord in the times of trouble that is near to all of us.   The Lord is coming.