As I re-read Isaiah again this morning, the idea of accepting this child being Christ doesn't fit what God is speaking. Hope you'll join me in this discussion and analyzes the before and after verses that indicate this is something taking place when the Lord returns and sets up his kingdom.
This is just a discussion and in not intended to bring arguments in distaste and if one disagrees with me or some other reply it is okay as we are examining these verses. We are each allowed to have our own thoughts on this. For me it is a mystery I would like to solve with other scriptures revealing the truth of the matter, not traditional teachings, if the Lord is willing to show us what He is stating.
Isaiah 66
7 “Before she was in labor (the Zion says verse 8)
she gave birth;
before her pain came upon her
she delivered a son. ( who is this son? I find it hard to accept it is Jesus because it is about God's children being born)
8 Who has heard such a thing?
Who has seen such things?
Shall a land be born in one day
Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? ?
For as soon as Zion was in labor
she brought forth her children.
9 Shall I bring to the point of birth and not cause to bring forth?”
says the Lord;
“shall I, who cause to bring forth, shut the womb?”
says your God.
10 “Rejoice with Jerusalem, and be glad for her,
all you who love her;
rejoice with her in joy,
all you who mourn over her;
11 that you may nurse and be satisfied
from her consoling breast;
that you may drink deeply with delight
from her glorious abundance.”
12 For thus says the Lord:
“Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river,
and the glory of the nations like an overflowing stream;
and you shall nurse, you shall be carried upon her hip,
and bounced upon her knees.
13 As one whom his mother comforts,
so I will comfort you;
you shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
14 You shall see, and your heart shall rejoice;
your bones shall flourish like the grass;
and the hand of the Lord shall be known to his servants,
and he shall show his indignation against his enemies.
The Word of God tells us that Jesus came in the flesh over 2000 yrs ago, this prophecy our Lord spoke is to take place at the End of the Age as these verses reveal the children are being born into Zion. The promise of what we will incur at the time of being born.
There is another place that a child is spoken about that I not yet heard an interpretation I agree with and this is in Rev 12 which is also describing the earth giving birth to her children
Rev 12:1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
12:2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. (our being born into the kingdom same as Isaiah 66)
12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: An enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his head (Daniel's 4 prophecy)
Right before the earth gives birth to her children this prophecy says that the Son of Perdition comes along with the other kings and fulfills their part.
12:4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. ( a great war upon the earth and heaven takes place)
The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth to her children.
Zion is about to give birth to her children, so it is after this event, we are born into the kingdom and this is possibly the time God takes the woman and puts her into a place of safety? The woman in my concept of reading all the other verses of the O.T and N.T. is the first covenant people, the tribes of Israel, because we have been born from out of them in God's terminology of what I read.
Where I get this from God's word is in Rev 12:16-17 where God helped the woman and the dragon went off to make war against "HER OFFSPRING" Those who hold to the testimony of Jesus....only we Christians hold the testimony of Jesus not any other people and we are the offspring of the Woman says God in these verses. this is why I make the statement I have.
Interestingly in Rev 12:4 the woman was about to give birth to her child has to do with these times of the End which Isaiah is speaking about also. I have found this study most fascinating as I believe the answer to my question as I post this as I study these verse at the same time is the child has to do with the resurrected dead that takes place before the offspring that is here having war with the dragon comes forth, this is the Man Child that Lord is referring to in my opinion.
I love the Lord's word and to dig into it looking for truth fascinates me when the Lord is willing to open up another truth of what he is doing..He doesn't always give us the understanding of what he is saying and we form our own most of the time...but the scriptures I have been reading lead me to believe the man child that is born before the earth gives birth is the resurrected dead that come up which takes place before the Zion gives birth to her children which is those who have been left alive until the Lord's coming and then they are changed in the twinkling of an eye...
And for those who believe you are removed prior to this it would only be through death that you would not be here for this is the time that brings an End to this Age and birth to the children of God and these events as told to us by God must take place before we are all born into the kingdom of God and reign and live here upon the earth for the Millennium.
In Christ's love
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