The house of Jacob

[cizz]

What does the "house of Jacob" represent and denote in the bible?

Luke 1:33  And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Why does he reign over "the house of Jacob" only...why doesn't it say he reigns over all Israel?

Is there a difference between being called 'Jacob' and being called "Israel"...Have you ever wondered why Abraham was never referred to as Abram again after God changed his name, but yet Jacob is called by either name after his name was changed...

Jacob's name was changed because he had, striven with God and with men, and prevailed.

Mic. 3:9   Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.

What comes with being called Israel, you are considered a prince...and you are consider "a son"

Exd. 4:22  And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel [is] my son, [even] my firstborn

I think this represents the house of Jacob...one that forgets to remember both, God and man (others)..

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/holidays/Jewish_Holidays/Yom_Kippur/In_the_Community/Prayer_Services.shtml

The daytime services of Yom Kippur are characterized by their emphasis on the two major themes of forgiveness from sin and teshuvah, or repentance. According to the traditional Jewish prayers, God immediately forgives us for the sins that affect no one else other than our relationship with God. For sins that affect and harm others, we must first apologize and seek forgiveness from those whom we have hurt.


The Lord left us with two important commandments: God and man

[cizz]

Matt. 22
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

This is the first and great commandment.

And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Matt. 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
*Note it says "the law" not the laws...but Prophets is plural! 

Why is the second one so important???

Matt. 7:12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

What is the difference between a servant and a son...the servant is in it for reward as to where I would hope the son...because of love
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[cizz]

http://www.betemunah.org/israelja.html

[greggk]

Gen_25:31  And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright.
That made Esau's children members of the house of Jacob.
 
Eze_20:5  And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when I chose Israel, and lifted up mine hand unto the seed of the house of Jacob, and made myself known unto them in the land of Egypt, when I lifted up mine hand unto them, saying, I am the LORD your God;
 
Isaiah 10:20  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.

[cizz]

You know the first thing that came to mind when I read your post was the "offerings" that Jacob sent out in front of him to Esau...?

[cizz]

Luke 1:33  And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Well it should be obvious from this verse, there will always be the house of Jacob to rule over..

[dgbygrace]

This may sound stupid...because I am not as learned as you both are...but perhaps "Jacob" refers to those that truly belong to Him in heart whereas "Israel" is those that belong to Him in name only....

[cizz]

reverse it.. difference between being a son and a servant...?

one has a teacher the other a ruler...teacher and ruler are the same just viewed in different light..?

What comes with being called Israel, you are considered a prince...and you are considered "a son"

Exd. 4:22  And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel [is] my son, [even] my firstborn

[cizz]

It took Jacob to try and reconcile with Esau, strive with God and man, to gain the name Israel...now add in brother's post..


Eze_20:5  And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when I chose Israel, and lifted up mine hand unto the seed of the house of Jacob, and made myself known unto them in the land of Egypt, when I lifted up mine hand unto them, saying, I am the LORD your God;

Isaiah 10:20  And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.

House of Jacob is to be ruled over always...the remnant of Israel and some that are escaped of the house of Jacob..escape the need of being ruled over?

[cizz]

This may sound stupid...because I am not as learned as you both are...but perhaps "Jacob" refers to those that truly belong to Him in heart whereas "Israel" is those that belong to Him in name only....

Sis, nothing you say sounds stupid! Learned!! O-M-G! brother Gregg and me! Learned! 

I think brother might agree that we are not all that learned above and beyond any, in fact I know brother has said or either I just imagined he did  many times "empty head" is better!

Let's see,  ......    ....

A knowledgeable person is one that learns things..
A wise person is one that un learns things..
A whole and complete person is one that does both..
    

[greggk]

If we have decided that the house of Jacob is Esau's children, what is it about the house of Jacob that you have to escape from? And if the house of Jacob is going to be ruled forever, what is the rule?   

[greggk]

"This may sound stupid...because I am not as learned as you both are...but perhaps "Jacob" refers to those that truly belong to Him in heart whereas "Israel" is those that belong to Him in name only...."

Well hmmm, that is so interesting.  Jacob could refer to the uncircumcised and Israel to the circumcised.  That would be opposite of what you believe.  It's like, when Jacob wrestled with God and man, the man could have been himself.  He was given the name Israel because he prevailed with God.  God is within you.    

[dgbygrace]

Totally agree God is within you!

BUT the NT stresses that circumcision means nothing if your insides aren't right.  Circumcise your hearts!  And through Abraham and Jacob came the blessing...through faith not outward sign!